On April 22, the Michigan House of Representatives passed an appropriations bill that included funding for The Salvation Army's Harbor Light program, as it has annually for several years.
The program has been in existence in the Detroit area since 1939, and has expanded across the country. It provides rehabilitation services for substance abuse and programs for the homeless.
While the program itself does not appear to involve proselytizing, the continued state funding for the activities of The Salvation Army and those of other religious charities, such as those run by the Catholics, provides stability, assets, and PR for religious organizations.
The question raised in my mind about this program is this: what does this program offer that a secular alternative cannot? If money is to be appropriated for substance abuse, as with this appropriation, then why not choose a secular non-profit or have a state-managed operation? Does the state take bids on this sort of service?
I will be exploring this issue in depth, since I have seen funding for this program on appropriations bills since 2001, when I began following legislation in Michigan. In the meantime, read more about it here.
Wednesday, April 29, 2009
Monday, April 27, 2009
Writing for The Examiner
I have become the Detroit Church & State Examiner for Examiner.com. I have several article ideas, but there are two ways I want to involve Michigan Atheists. First, I want to give Michigan Atheists as much positive publicity as I possibly can, since the primary reason Michigan Atheists exists is to educate the public about separation of state and church issues. The second is that I want to document individual events and help promote them.
I will be writing four to five articles per week for Examiner.com. While I won't be focusing one hundred percent of them on Michigan Atheists, I would like to raise awareness of issues by presenting the facts on Examiner.com, then coming here and calling for action when it is necessary.
I would love your thoughts.
My first article may be found here.
I will be writing four to five articles per week for Examiner.com. While I won't be focusing one hundred percent of them on Michigan Atheists, I would like to raise awareness of issues by presenting the facts on Examiner.com, then coming here and calling for action when it is necessary.
I would love your thoughts.
My first article may be found here.
Saturday, January 24, 2009
Michigan Atheists State Director to be on Lou Perry Radio Show
WHO: Arlene-Marie, Michigan State Director
WHAT: Guest on the Lou Perry Radio Show
Topic: church and state issues
WHERE: WLBY Radio – 1290 AMAnn Arbor, Michigan(covering a number of communities in Michigan, but not a national program)
WHEN: Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:30 p.m.
CALL-IN: 734-827-1290
ARLENE-MARIE, Michigan Atheists State Director*Director, Michigan Atheists Affiliate *Chairman, American Atheists Convention 2009*American Atheists, Inc., Board of Directors
amarie@atheists.org
Phone: 313-938-5960
http://www.michiganatheists.org/
PO Box 0025, Allen Park, MI 48101
WHAT: Guest on the Lou Perry Radio Show
Topic: church and state issues
WHERE: WLBY Radio – 1290 AMAnn Arbor, Michigan(covering a number of communities in Michigan, but not a national program)
WHEN: Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:30 p.m.
CALL-IN: 734-827-1290
ARLENE-MARIE, Michigan Atheists State Director*Director, Michigan Atheists Affiliate *Chairman, American Atheists Convention 2009*American Atheists, Inc., Board of Directors
amarie@atheists.org
Phone: 313-938-5960
http://www.michiganatheists.org/
PO Box 0025, Allen Park, MI 48101
Thursday, January 22, 2009
Correction
My appearance on the bob Dutko show will be on January 28th. I corrected it in the article, but corrections within posts already created do not get sent to the group.
Wednesday, January 21, 2009
Another Bob Dutko Show Invitation
Some time ago, I made a deal with one of my colleagues at work that if he'd read a book on evolution, I would debate Bob Dutko on 103.5 FM on the subject. Bob Dutko is a Christian radio talk show host who believes in a literal interpretation of the Bible.
I emailed Bob, telling him I was a biology major in college (before I switched), that I am a board member for Michigan Atheists, and that I would like to debate with him regarding evolution. He responded promptly, and that's how it began.
Since then, we've had conversations (they are not formal debates in any sense) about separation of state and church, the plausibility of dinosaurs and humans coexisting, and the existence of gods. We're having another round regarding the last subject.
There have been mixed reviews. Some people will say I did well; others will say I missed this or that point; others will say that I failed to "go for the jugular". All I will say is this: I am not going on Bob Dutko's show to win or lose. I will answer his points as well as I can and as time allows, as always, but my real goal is to demonstrate that an Atheist can stand his ground and be civil about it. My goal is to show Bob's audience that Atheists aren't bitter, angry, hateful people; we're rational, sane, and reasonably intelligent.
So far, it's worked fairly well. Bob's audience members have called and written him to say that the Atheist he had on seemed like a nice guy. They like that I don't try to shout him down--which means that ultimately, they'll be likely to listen to the whole conversation. I know that several of my colleagues at work do, and their feedback has been positive. I've given them things to think about. They may not give up religion, but at least they know someone who is an Atheist, so their prejudices toward and caricatures of Atheists have to come into conflict with what they know about me.
In any case, the show will be airing live at 1:00 PM on Wednesday, January 28, for anyone who wants to listen.
I emailed Bob, telling him I was a biology major in college (before I switched), that I am a board member for Michigan Atheists, and that I would like to debate with him regarding evolution. He responded promptly, and that's how it began.
Since then, we've had conversations (they are not formal debates in any sense) about separation of state and church, the plausibility of dinosaurs and humans coexisting, and the existence of gods. We're having another round regarding the last subject.
There have been mixed reviews. Some people will say I did well; others will say I missed this or that point; others will say that I failed to "go for the jugular". All I will say is this: I am not going on Bob Dutko's show to win or lose. I will answer his points as well as I can and as time allows, as always, but my real goal is to demonstrate that an Atheist can stand his ground and be civil about it. My goal is to show Bob's audience that Atheists aren't bitter, angry, hateful people; we're rational, sane, and reasonably intelligent.
So far, it's worked fairly well. Bob's audience members have called and written him to say that the Atheist he had on seemed like a nice guy. They like that I don't try to shout him down--which means that ultimately, they'll be likely to listen to the whole conversation. I know that several of my colleagues at work do, and their feedback has been positive. I've given them things to think about. They may not give up religion, but at least they know someone who is an Atheist, so their prejudices toward and caricatures of Atheists have to come into conflict with what they know about me.
In any case, the show will be airing live at 1:00 PM on Wednesday, January 28, for anyone who wants to listen.
Monday, November 3, 2008
Southfield Churches Involved in Michigan Politics



In the pictures above, we have three churches (two pictures are from one church) in Southfield, Michigan, which have become involved in state politics by advising voters to vote "no" on Proposal 2, an initiative which deals with public funding for stem cell research.
Whatever view voters take on stem cell research and the public funding of it, the issue here is that churches may be overstepping their bounds when it comes to maintaining their tax exempt status. They are quite welcome to preach within their walls about the "evils" of stem cell research, but when it comes to telling voters how to vote, and not just their congregants, but every voter who drives along Lahser, Berg, and Ten Mile Roads in Southfield (just to name a few--I have seen these signs in front of churches in Clawson and Royal Oak, too), they should refrain from telling voters what to do with their tax dollars--or they should pay their fair share of taxes.
The churches in the pictures are Our Lady of Albanians on Lahser Road, Mother of God Chaldean Catholic Church on Berg Road, and the Church of the Transfiguration on Ten Mile Road.
If you see any churches with signs in front regarding ballot proposals or supporting candidates, please snap a picture, if possible, and send it to gregtreich@comcast.net.
Monday, September 29, 2008
Opening night of Bill Maher's "Religulous"
Hello, fellow Michigan Atheists!
The open night of Bill Maher's "Religulous" is October 3rd. Michigan Atheists are invited to attend this event.
We will be meeting up with the Detroit Atheists Meetup and the Center For Inquiry for this event.
The event will be at the Main Art Theatre in Royal Oak at 6:45 this Friday.
Arguably, Religulous is the most arrogant major motion picture to date. Comedian Bill Maher makes blasphemous fun of religion, from the Muslim riots over cartoons to the Ten Commandments in front of courthouses, to a born-again Christian in the White House and Scientology in the birthing room.
Running Time: 1 hr 41 min
MAIN ART THEATRE
118 N. MAIN STREET
ROYAL OAK, MI 48067
Map to the Main Art Theatre in Royal Oak:
click here
The open night of Bill Maher's "Religulous" is October 3rd. Michigan Atheists are invited to attend this event.
We will be meeting up with the Detroit Atheists Meetup and the Center For Inquiry for this event.
The event will be at the Main Art Theatre in Royal Oak at 6:45 this Friday.
Arguably, Religulous is the most arrogant major motion picture to date. Comedian Bill Maher makes blasphemous fun of religion, from the Muslim riots over cartoons to the Ten Commandments in front of courthouses, to a born-again Christian in the White House and Scientology in the birthing room.
Running Time: 1 hr 41 min
MAIN ART THEATRE
118 N. MAIN STREET
ROYAL OAK, MI 48067
Map to the Main Art Theatre in Royal Oak:
click here
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